A group of girls, around 13 or 14 years, once asked me what I was 'studying'? "II year B.D.S.", I said. An agile discussion took place betwixt them and they giggled! I was stumped!! One of the girls father was a doctor. He was related to the medical field and not dental. No regrets. But what aghast me was that giggle in a jiffy! I could relate it only to the girl's father who happened to be this 'doc'!
I have always wondered why people think dentistry as inferior, at least in comparison with medicine! "What are you doing currently?" Someone asked me..
"Am doing my II year in dentistry."
"Ah! That's great. But did you not make it to medicine??!!" He's downhearted..
"Excuse me! How would I make it if I did not apply to it?????!!!!" Am dismayed!
There can be 3 categories of people who apply for dentistry. One, you are really interested in the course. Two, you had to as you could not make it to M.B.B.S. and third, you are forced to join due to some sort of a shear! Whichever category the individual belongs to, it solely depends on what he is tomorrow(a successful dentist or yet another dentist!)
Talking about those girls again, it shows how their parents have educated them at this age! In what way are dentists inferior?! You can call it animosity as I am pursuing my career in dentistry but honestly being in the same field, it hurts more. Adding salt on an open wound, is how I would describe it!
When there was an additional year of internship for the M.B.B.S. students, a lot of protest was on! Commotion and chaos advanced everywhere. When we(myself and peer) sat down for a discussion if we could serve the rural community, it sounded impractical! To afford even the basics, starting from the dental chairs till dental cements, seemed absurd! Is that the reason the dentists are subjacent?! "All you need is a table, a chair, a few minimal apparatus and that is it, your clinic is ready!" Is that all is required by a medical practitioner?!
"Medicine is a noble profession aimed for the betterment of people." Precisely! This is what I am trying to convey. But why have to demarcate Medicine as M.B.B.S. alone?? Why the other fields like pharmaceuticals, nursing, B.D.S., physiotherapy etc neglected?! Why has Medicine become a narrow spectrum?
When you are in the aisle to emerge as a dentist, when you are a student, the respect is missing. But when there is an inclusion of Dr., the awe is seen! By respect I do not mean a white collar or the 'dispose of' attitude.
Expand your vision if you still think medical practitioners are the elite group. There is no elite group if it is meant for the people and their betterment! Understand that M.B.B.S. or B.D.S. work on the same cadavers(the dead) , difference being they(M.B.B.S.) study the entire cadaver whereas B.D.S. are delimited to the neck. When we get down into the profession and are certified doctors, we work on the 6th sense animals only!
23 comments:
very good discussion...i wholly agree with the writer
well my dear budding dentist.
iam also a budding dentist, but a smaller bud thats all( I'm in my 2nd Yr)
you know what: i was initialy one among the guys who couldnt make it to M.B.B.S. and opt for dentistry instead.
But right now I'm in love with this course.
(well I agree with U about we treated as inferiors)
hi dear doctor at the very firt iam thanking you for doing wonderful attept..u know buddy i was searching for how to do mbbs after bds , any lateral entry available for bds mds graduates to joing for medical..accidently i saw ur tagg..u know this thought is not new it has been started the day bds degree started .i would like to appeal you not to deleate my post..atleast for some days..iam a mds supposed to be our pg' when iwas doing my bds days of freshers period at college whenever we questioned by our seniours and others out 100 students 99% was saying that they cud'nt make up to mbbs and delibratly pushed in this field..thie quieries allways asked to my juniours in consecutive years..we have got same ansewrs some said that i dont have intellegence to do mbbs so came for bds wer easy to pass and notb to deal or study real medicine..or its consisderd to non-medical or co-medical..its true buddy..whatever we say..in reality we are sidelined or discriminated ..and my hospital wwer iam working we hav 30 doctors in medical speciality including spoacialists and superspacalists..u dont believe every doctors exept dental paid 1LACK AND ABOVE + CUTS..SOME ARE 2 LAKS TOO...in same way my assistent who is BDS paid only 6 thousend...and me pg cadre paid just 20 thousend'''''its tha raw truth..and my juniours working just for 3.5 tousemds ...please tel me what did u understand out of this....dear buddy..how did you put up discussion on this topic..becoz sense of inferiority deep rooted to every dental candidates...u have to agree with this..at the time of PG state entrane allmost all the candidates wer sharing same thoughts and i made strong submission at the local and central dental bodies at impose the rule that none of the candidates should work below 15 thousend...nothing seems to happn..and dental colleges still paying 3THOUSENDS AND 5 TOUSENDS ...survival is more importenet thats what my collegues reply when ever i talk about their pay ..and u may get some good money working private not assured or consistent..may or may not..thats it..and u wil be a trader or technician ..just running a shop..whatever u say hospitals wil not accept bds,canidates u might be just a student when u come out with BDS u wil come to know the real pain u wil undergo''not discouraging you.. but this is the bare truth ..see my dear people wil value you the AMOUT OF MONEY , SOCIAL STATUS U COULD CREATE'' philosophically you can defend but reality just oppsite..and please dnt mislead any more our juniours ..upcoming kids saying that BDS is great and all those..please...if you can please block anybody going or joining for BDS OR EVEN THINKING OF it..with great agony iam writing this...the problum if name BDS itself shows that its inferiour..confined with 32 TOOTH, NOTHING MORE...i used to hear wives of beloved dentists comment whenever u ask HOW ARE YOU THEY REPLY ...YEAH FINE WITH 32 TOOTH..okey now as yu say demand of just MBBS i s deminished i agree but they are paid 50 tousend and above atleast..and anoter point is our pg mds again consists of 32 tooth..nothing graet about it ..i know my friends are OMFS JUST WRITE MDs ' JUST AVOIDING BDS...WHY??? JUST TO MIMIC MEDICOS...AND THEY DONTEVEN WRITE MDS' this the correct form but they write s" is very small ..this all indicate that we are allready treated very badly..by writing MDs they may get somesatisfaction that we are allso in main stream...current condition even worse after starts of private dental colleges..karnataka some colleges are allready closed, others are not taking bds applicates ..tamilnadu huge amonut of seats are vacent for BDS ...so what all this shows buddy..now i want to apppeal that with great respect allrady we have been trappd in to this quick sand ..no hope and future for us..EVEN IAM LOOKING FOR PREPARING AGAIN STATE ENTRANCE..BECOZE I CAN BEAR ANY MORE FILTHY DISCREMINATION..SO LETS JOIN HAND TOGHTHER AND HELP OUR JUNIOURS AND YOUNGSTERS ARE PLANNING FOR BRIGHT FUTURE...DECITION AFTER THE TURNING POINT..OF EVERY BODY"S LIFE...THANK YOU DEAR FRIEND TAKE CARE...WISHING U ALL THE BEST ..GOD BLESS YOU... DR.SHAMMI...BSc,MDs,MSc..
BDS SHOULD BE DISSOLVED..IT SHOULD BE ADDED TO MBBS, IT SHOULD B MBBS (D),MBDS,OR IT SHUD BE MBBS(STEMATOLOGY)....WE MUST SEND A COMMON APPEAL TO SUPEREME COURT AS WEL AS MCI TO DISSOLVE, MERGE DCI IT TO MCI.OTHERWISE THIS HUGE EVERLASTING PROBLUM IS NEVER SOLVED..THANK YOU DENTISTS...
hi frndz, i am sanjay reading in 1st yr bds at kolkata. i think evry proffesn hs its own glamour n respect. neither a mbbs doc or bdS R NEGLECTED
Yes, that is true. I am in 2nd year B.D.S and people around me think that I am not a doctor,but only a person who gives beauty to teeth. Some people even don`t know that what is a B.D.S and this shocks me a lot
hi i hav not evn joined a DENTAL colg n yet i hav started facng these inferiorities......i hope ppl strt thnkng more like u
WELL MBBS OR BDS ARE BOTH PROFESSIONS AND BOTH ARE IMPORTANT AND TO ITSELF ARE NOT COMPLETE IN ITSELF NEED MD OR MDS AS SUPPLEMENT TO ESTABLISH CARRIER
INTERMS OF SKILLS MBBS CAN PRESCRIBE GENERAL MEDICINE AND SMALL PROCEDURES
IN TERMS OF BDS CAN DO LOT OF PROCEDURES FROM RESTORATION TO ROOT CANAL TO CLEANING ,DENTURES ETC
SO BDS IS MORE SKILLFUL THAN MBBS
POST SPECIALIZATION BOTH ARE EQUAL
NOW WHERE IS DIFFERENCE
1. DEMANT
2. AVAILABILITY OF SPECIALISTS
3 JOB OPPERTUNITY
4 NO OF PG SEATS
ONE U JOIN MBBS OR BDS WHAT IS UR CHANCES OF GETTING POSTGRADUATION AND WHAT ARE OVERALL JOB OPPERTUNITIES
AS DENSTIS U HAVE LESS OF STUDY ,LESS EXPENDITURE ,MORE TIME .EASY LIFE
AS MBBS U HAVE 10-15YRS STRUGGLE
AS DENSTIS U HAVE TO BE GOOD WITH GOOD SKILLS
AS MBBS U CAN USE BOOKS AND WRITEMEDICINES WITHOUT ANY SKILLS
AFTER MBBS SOME SPECIALITIES LIKE SURGERY,OPTHALMOLOGY REQUIRE UR HAND SKILLS SOME LIKE MEDICINE, RADIOLOGY USE LESS SKILLS MORE OF BRAIN
IF U ARE BDS AND MDS AND THEN ITS AS GOOD AS MBBS WITH MD /MS
IF UR PLANE MBBS OR BDS THE BDS IS BETTER
OVERALL IF U LOOK AT A HOSPITAL
DENTAL DEPT IS JUST ONE DEPT WHERE HOSPITAL EMPLOYS 4-5 PEOPLE AS DOCTORS
OTHERS DEPTS MAKE UP REST OF HOSPITAL
SO MBBS AND BDS THERE ARE 50 SEATS IN A COLLEGE
SO MBBS WILL HAVE A GREATOR JOB PROSPECT BUT THAT IS ONLY BENEFIT BUT QUALITY OF JOB IS WORSE THAN U THINK LIKE EMO OR HOUSE JOB WHICH IS UNSUSTAINABLE AFTER 1-2YRS
CHANCE OF PG ARE UNKNOWN AFTER MBBS
1:100 RATIO I...E FOR 100 MBBS WILL YIELD ONLY 1 MD PER TEST OF AIIPG AND IS WORSE FOR PGI AND AIIMS
ALTERNATIVE IS DNB WHERE PASSRATE IS 8-9% AND SUCCESS IS UNKNOWS
SO IN TERMS OF RISK ITS HIGH FOR MBBS INTERMS OF MEDICOLEGAL AND FAILIURE RATE IS ALSO HIGH FOR NOT PASSING OR DROPPING CARRIER AND MORE DEPRESSION
SO MBBS AND MD/MS IS MORE TOUGH JOB AND LIVE AS COMPARED TO BDS AND MDS
BDS>MBBS
MDS =MD =SALARY
JOBS MBBS>BDS
IF UR BDS AND U LOVE IT NOTHING BETTER ON MBBS SIDE AND DO MDS NOTHING TO LOOSE
IF UR MBBS ITS NOTHING WORTH UNLES UR PG SO WORK HARD TILL U GET AND DO PG TOTAL; 10-15YRS EVEN LIFE AFTER THAT IS WORSE
I HAD ON YR IN BDS AND THEN DID MBBS,DMRD AND DNB RADIOLOGY ONE OF BEST PLACES IN MEDICINE BUT ITS ONLY IN BOOKS EVEN RADILOGY IS WORSE THAN DENTISTRY HERE I HAVE TO DO 30 TO 40 ULTRASOUND PLUS X RAYS AND CT AND MRI ITS BUST AND STRESSFUL
BUT AS DENTIST U HAVE POWER TO CALL PATIENT BY UR WISH AND LIMIT UR WORK
HERE WE CANT REFUSE PATIENTS
SO GOODLUCK TO ALL BDS PEOPLE NOTHING TO LOOSE
OF U ARE EARNING LESS IN JOB DO PRIVATE PRACTICE SALARY IN JOB IS DEMAND SUPPLY BASIS SINCE LOT OF BDS SEATS SALARY IS LOW BUT THAT DOESNOT UNDERMINE VALUATION OF PRACTICE
SINCE BDS IS SPECIALISATION BASIC REASON OF BDS FINDING LOW SALARY LIES WITH NO OF BDS SEATS AND NO OF COLLEGES
SINCE BDS TAKES SEATS AT PAR WITH MBBS I.E 50 SO THEY HAVE INCREASE SUPPLY BUT SINCE IT IS A SPECIALISATION DEMAND IS NOT AT THAT PAR SO VALUATION WILL COMEDOWN
IF FOR ONE JOB 5 PEOPLE APPLY LOWEST DEMANDING WILL GET JOB
NOW TAKE EG OF RADIOLOGY THERE IS 1: 1 SEAT STUDENT PROFESSOR RATIO
SO THERE IS ALWAYS MORE DEMANT AND JOBS REMAIN VACANT AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN MORE THAN ONE PERSON OR LESS FOR A JOB SO
SO IN DENTISTRY FAULT LIES IN ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS CAUSING VALUATION OF BDS DOCTORS TO DIP BY OPENING MORE COLLEGES AND INCREASING SEATS FOR DENTISTRY TO REMAIN VIABLE OPTION ONE COLLEGE SHOULD TAKE NOT MORE THAN 10 STUDENTS PER YEAR AND SAME NO FOR SPECIALISTATION THEN IN NEXT FIVE YEARS DEMAND INCREASE AND SUPPLY REDICES AND VALUATION INCREASES
STUDENT TEACHER RATION TO BE 1: 1 FOR BDS AND MDS
IMAGEINGE IF WE TRAIN 50 RADIOLOGIST IN ONE COLLEGE THEN WE WILL KILL RADIOLOGY AS PROFESSION AS VALUATION WILL BE LOST
SO FIRST MAKE BDS A PRICED CATCH AND A DIFFICULT CATCH REDUCE SEATS SO WHOSOEVER DOES IT NEVER REPENTS FOR LOW SALARY
Hi, am Arth, I just completed 12 n nw due to difference of 2 marks I m nt getting admission in MBBS. Well am a lot confused wether to take a drop of one year repeat the CET exam thn again apply nxt year or to continue with BDS?? M interested in both. Do Throw some light. Awaiting fr Ur reply. Thank u.
even I got admission in dentistry this year... and I m proud of our proffesion.....
I am reading bds 2nd year. I early thought before joining the course dentistry a bad field nothing to do with your brain. Only for extract tooth. Now I came to know we are in great stand not only on practical but also on our theories we are really studying the same subjects of mbbs upto third year and having a change only on the final year. That's why I got impressed with this field.Proud to be a bds student.
Being the father of a BDS girl student I am extremely proud.Because no doubt MMBS ranks better than BDS but especially for a female BDS is better then MBBS.No 24X7 duty.Happy Married life.A student if he/she reads very well than definitely he/she will be flying. BDS is abroad specialization.It is the peoples narrow mindset today of MBBS over BDS.
As a fellow bds final year student and a paet of the dental community i fully support your saying. My father being a professor of medicine and comining from a family of MBBS/MD doctors fortunately i had a very positive look for both the streams and the environmwnt was such i was made to believe that anything dealing with human body treatment is nobel and if u are true to ure profession nothing is inferior or superior. Sadly the indian mindset of the so called prejudiced minds rarely change but its time for ppl to realise the importance of every stream and they uave no right to mockery without knowing how much studying and efforts it takes to earn a degree in human sector... best wishes to all. God bless
As a fellow bds final year student and a paet of the dental community i fully support your saying. My father being a professor of medicine and comining from a family of MBBS/MD doctors fortunately i had a very positive look for both the streams and the environmwnt was such i was made to believe that anything dealing with human body treatment is nobel and if u are true to ure profession nothing is inferior or superior. Sadly the indian mindset of the so called prejudiced minds rarely change but its time for ppl to realise the importance of every stream and they uave no right to mockery without knowing how much studying and efforts it takes to earn a degree in human sector... best wishes to all. God bless
A female or a male profession is a profession.i am tired of hearing the same that bds is better for girls.i am sorry sir but be it family life or marriage both the man and women is part of it and not just the girl so I feel it's very unfair to have a restricted thought.i am a victim to these lines and yes it hurts...
You are very senior to me...yet I would like to question you... Why do you think that bad should be dissolved? Being in BDS one realises how vast this field is. Technically and practically we specialise during our interpretation itself.... Talking about clinical work.. Students in mind hardly perform surgical procedures while in BDS ranging from LA to extraction to suturing and managing facial trauma... and much more to mention... Also numerous systemic diseases manifest oral symptoms before other ones... I hope this must be enough for you to reconsider your views...
Thank you!!!
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